If you cannot attain justice by engaging the system, then you must seek other means of changing it.

We are in the early stages of an uprising against racism and police violence. The simultaneous collapse of politics and governance in the midst of a global pandemic has forced millions of people to take to the streets to demand the most basic necessities of life, including the right to be free of police harassment or murder.

Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor and Marc Lamont Hill discuss the history, present, and future of the fight for a world where Black Lives Matter, hosted by E. Tammy Kim.

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Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor writes and speaks on Black politics, social movements, and racial inequality in the United States. She is author of From #BlackLivesMatter to Black Liberation, which won the Lannan Cultural Freedom Award for an Especially Notable Book in 2016. She is also editor of How We Get Free: Black Feminism and the Combahee River Collective, which won the Lambda Literary Award for LGBQT nonfiction in 2018. Her third book, Race for Profit: How Banks and the Real Estate Industry Undermined Black Homeownership, published in 2019 by University of North Carolina Press, was a finalist for a National Book Award for nonfiction, and a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize for History.

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Marc Lamont Hill is one of the leading intellectual voices in the country. He is currently the host of BET News and a political contributor for CNN. An award-winning journalist, Dr. Hill has received numerous prestigious awards from the National Association of Black Journalists, GLAAD, and the International Academy of Digital Arts and Sciences. Dr. Hill is the Steve Charles Professor of Media, Cities, and Solutions at Temple University. Prior to that, he held positions at Columbia University and Morehouse College.

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E. Tammy Kim is a magazine reporter, a contributing opinion writer at the New York Times, and a retired lawyer. She co-edited the book Punk Ethnography. She cohosts the Time to Say Goodbye podcast.

For further reading on this topic check out Haymarket Books' Black Liberation Reading List.